“Psychiatric expert” from CAMH (Centre for Addiction and Mental Health) in Toronto, Dr. Jonathan Rootenberg, who for all that we know is unable to tell the difference between compulsive behaviour and psychotic behaviour, determined that Vincent Li “Greyhound beheader” and a cannibal who killed and dismembered Timothy McLean of Winnipeg on a bus in Manitoba last July was psychotic when he killed his victim.
One does not have to be a psychiatrist, one just have to observe Dr. Rootenberg in person and listen to him speak for a while to quickly realise that “our psychiatric expert” is trying very hard to cope with some very serious mental handicaps.
First odd thing that one observes it the voice; Dr. Rootenberg’s False Ego voice that he uses to peddle his “psychiatric expertise” sounds like a voice of a man that it at least twice the size of Dr. Rootenberg. One could speculate that Dr. Rootenberg’s father was or still is twice the size of Dr. Jonathan Rootenberg and this False Ego voice is his father’s voice.
Once we manage to get over oddity of the voice and take a good look at Dr. Rootenberg’s performance we realise that Dr. Rootenberg’s mimics and gesticulation is very much overdone and it is produced consciously for public consumption. Not in spirit of good acting of a great actor imposing his persona on others in his presence, more in a way of a fake and an impostor who desperately keeps monitoring others to make sure that they keep on swallowing this mask that his False Ego keeps on generating.
Sadly, “Video” produced by Dr. Rootenberg’s False Ego keeps on lagging his “Audio” creating “Doppler Effect” commonly seen in badly dubbed Class B movies.
If that was not bad enough Dr. Rootenberg’s well rehearsed answers to prescript questions are delivered with this “Incredible Lightness of Being” tone of voice so characteristic for people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Once we overcome all these visual and audio effects and try to concentrate on merit of things that we hear from him we have to sift thru this barrage of magic words; “major mental illness”, “delusional thinking”, “psychotic episode” and when we filter them out there is no independent thought left but a desperate plea to the listeners “But, these psychotropic drugs do help this patient to gain some insight into nature of his illness, do they not, but why?? They should.”
Since I saw Dr. Jonathan Rootenberg on March 17, 2009 delivering his performance to a very limited audience at CAMH during ORB (Ontario Review Board) Hearing I am willing to cut him some slack and I am willing to take this flight of imagination and presume that in the Courtroom he does significantly better. Does it in any way shape or form help Canadian justice system to somehow repair their tarnished image??
You be the judge:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2009/03/04/mb-li-trial.html
Bus beheading trial ends with both sides seeking same verdict
Judge promises decision Thursday morning
Last Updated: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 | 1:09 PM CT
CBC News
A two-day Winnipeg trial in a case of killing and beheading on a Greyhound bus ended Wednesday with both sides seeking the same verdict — not criminally responsible by reason of mental disorder.
The judge said he will deliver his verdict at 10 a.m. CT on Thursday.
Psychiatrists for the Crown and the defence agreed during the short trial that Vince Li, 40, was suffering from schizophrenia and did not know what he was doing when he killed 22-year-old Timothy McLean of Winnipeg on a bus in Manitoba last July.
The psychiatrists said Li believed he was acting on orders from God when he attacked McLean, mutilating the young man before decapitating him and eating part of the body.
Li had pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder, but Crown and defence lawyers asked that he be found not criminally responsible.
That verdict would mean he could be sent to a provincial psychiatric facility rather than to prison. He would be placed under the authority of a provincial review board with power to keep him in custody or, if he is no longer considered a risk, discharge him.
‘He has a major mental illness that …rendered him unable to know what he was doing was wrong’—Dr. Jonathan Rootenberg
Toronto psychiatrist Jonathan Rootenberg, testifying for the defence, told court Wednesday that Li suffers from schizophrenia and was probably psychotic for weeks before the attack.
Rootenberg said Li meets the criteria for an accused person who would be not criminally responsible. “He has a major mental illness that …rendered him unable to know what he was doing was wrong,” the psychiatrist said, suggesting Li knew he was stabbing someone but thought it was a demon and didn’t understand the nature of his actions.
Earlier, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Stanley Yaren, testifying for the Crown, also gave evidence that Li was diagnosed as schizophrenic and suffered from a major psychotic episode — tormented by auditory hallucinations — at the time of the killing.
Yaren testified that according to Li, God told him that McLean was a “force of evil” who was about to stab Li unless he protected himself.
Killer could one day be rehabilitated, psychiatrists say
Even after the killing, Li believed McLean had supernatural powers and would come back to life unless he dismembered the body and spread the body parts around the bus, Yaren said. Li was not capable of understanding his actions were wrong, he testified.
Both psychiatrists said that Li, although he is very ill, could one day be rehabilitated and returned to society.
The CBC’s Marisa Dragani, reporting from Winnipeg, said the trial was unusual for its brevity and lack of conflicting versions of events.
“In a murder trial, you usually hear from witnesses; you usually hear testimony about what happened, when and how,” she said. “We didn’t hear that.
“There was an agreed statement of facts, filed right off the bat, that the Crown and the defence agreed to, and that was read out in court. It was quite lengthy, and that was done to spare any of the witnesses and the family as well from reliving this horror….
Dr. Stanley Yaren is a mass murderer himself so looking from his perspective vincent Li is a fine gentleman.
Dr. Stanley Yaren uses “Zyprexa pump and dump” pseudo-medical procedure to kill (induce suicide) of his victims.
More on “Zyprexa pump and dump”
http://www.rightcrazy.com/?p=1019
Dr. Stanley Yaren’s recent victims:
Anna Maciocha
see:
http://www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/pdf/maciocha_anna_inquest_report.pdf
RICHARD FRANKLIN LAGIMODIERE
http://www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/pdf/lagimodiere_inquest.pdf
ALAN NICOLSON
http://www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/pdf/nicolson_inquest.pdf
PAUL LAURENT JOUBERT
http://www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/pdf/joubert_inquest.pdf
GRANT RYAN ERMINE
http://www.manitobacourts.mb.ca/pdf/ermine_inquest.pdf
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Judhe-urges-changes-to-make-it-harder-for-inmates-to-attempt-suicide-42279807.html
Dr. Stanley Yaren covers up for cops and jail guards
http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/collection/aji16-2003E.pdf
More on Dr. Rootenberg;
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2002/2002canlii4501/2002canlii4501.html
ONTARIO
SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE
B E T W E E N:
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
P. Tait and P. Colavecchia, for the Crown
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PETER MORRISSEY
J.C. Fleming, for the Accused
Accused
HEARD: October 2,3 and 4, 2002
RULING ON ABUSE OF PROCESS APPLICATION
[35] It is in keeping with the principles of judicial neutrality that any fitness assessment carried out pursuant to a court order be done in a neutral and even-handed way, by an independent psychiatrist who is devoid of ties to the Crown or defence that might serve to influence his/her opinions. In this case, I find that in the assessment process carried out in 2002 there was a blurring of the line between a court ordered fitness assessment, and a psychiatric examination obtained at the request of the Crown for its use as a party to the proceeding. The following circumstances are of particular concern:
(a) Dr. Rootenberg addressed his report to Crown counsel, and began his report by thanking Crown counsel for asking him to do the assessment of Mr. Morrissey. While this may have been inadvertence on his part, it is curious given his experience as a forensic psychiatrist, the fact that he was sent a copy of the court Order, and the fact that he had addressed his 1999 report to the presiding judge. The suggestion that it was done through inadvertence was contradicted by his own evidence that he addresses his reports to whomever has asked him to see the individual.
(b) Dr. Rootenberg reported that he told Mr. Morrissey that his report would be forwarded to the Crown Attorney’s office, and possibly submitted to the court as well. This indicates a lack of appreciation of his true role, and suggests that he viewed himself as having been retained by the Crown to provide it with a report.
(c) Crown counsel told Dr. Rootenberg to forward the completed report to the Crown’s office for disclosure to the defence. No doubt this was done to facilitate dissemination of the report, but it may have reinforced the misapprehension that the report was being prepared for the Crown. It would have been better had the report gone directly to the court, with copies provided for the court to release to Crown and defence counsel.
(d) The arrangement that Dr. Rootenberg would be paid by the Crown is, I accept, one that was made with good intentions on the part of the Crown. However, the fact that the defence was not told of this, that it apparently was not raised with MacDougall J. for his consideration at the time that he made the Order, and that no written policy exists in the Crown Attorney’s office to govern payment agreements, contributes to an appearance of bias. It is commendable that the Crown has assumed responsibility for payment of out-of-custody assessments, including this one, but it must be remembered that the Crown is a party to any proceedings that flow from the assessment. In an ideal world, the local Crown Attorney’s office should not be negotiating payment of the court-ordered assessor’s fees, but if this is the only means by which assessments can be carried out expeditiously, then the arrangements must be public and transparent. There should be a policy that is committed to writing, and defence counsel and the court should be advised on the record, or at least in writing, of any payment agreement that applies in a particular case.
(e) In the context of a court ordered fitness assessment, Dr. Rootenberg should not have been asked by Crown counsel, without the knowledge of the judge who made the Order or defence counsel, to provide advice about what evidence might assist the jury on the fitness hearing. He should not have been asked to assess the voluntariness of Mr. Morrissey’s statement to the police, given that this issue does not bear on the fitness assessment, and will be the subject of a pre-trial motion only if Mr. Morrissey is found fit. I accept that Crown counsel did not make these requests deliberately to subvert the fitness assessment, and may have been influenced by the content of Dr. Goger’s report. Nonetheless these requests should not have been made by the Crown. Dr. Rootenberg conceded that he had never before in the context of a fitness assessment been asked to express an opinion about the voluntariness of a videotaped statement, yet he was prepared to do so at the Crown’s request. He also was prepared to meet with Mr. Morrissey again, for a reason other than the fitness assessment, and tried to arrange this with Mr. Morrissey directly. It is troubling that after submitting his fitness report, and the day before he was to meet with the Crown, he viewed the videotape and made notes. This underscores that his review of the videotape did not bear on the fitness issue. Further, it suggests that he viewed himself as a resource for the Crown, notwithstanding the Order of MacDougall J.
[36] I do find that there was an element of unfairness in the manner in which the fitness assessment conducted by Dr. Rootenberg in 2002 was approached by the Crown and carried out. The neutral and independent character of the court ordered assessment was compromised by an appearance that Dr. Rootenberg was working with and for the Crown. This results from his willingness to follow the Crown’s lead, without pausing to consider his role as a court appointed assessor. I am, however, unable to find that Crown counsel, or for that matter Dr. Rootenberg, acted out of improper motive, bad faith, or in such a way that the conscience of the community is violated. Rather, I find that Crown counsel, honestly believing that certain actions and requests would expedite the assessment and any subsequent fitness hearing, and assist the prosecution in making decisions about the evidence on which it should rely in this difficult case, did not have proper regard for the character of the assessment process as one that was under the control of the court, not the parties or any one of them. I find that the conduct of the prosecution amounts to bad judgment and precipitous action, but does not fall to the level that the Supreme Court of Canada has said warrants a finding of abuse of process.
[37] In the event that I am wrong about this, and an abuse of process does exist such that s. 7 has been violated, I would have granted the remedy requested under s. 24(1) of the Charter, namely the exclusion of the evidence of Dr. Rootenberg. There is authority for the proposition that under s. 24(1), a judge may exclude evidence that was not obtained in violation of a Charter right, but the use of which would render the trial unfair: see R. v. White 1999 CanLII 689 (S.C.C.), (1999), 24 C.R. (5th) 201 (S.C.C.), and also Stuart, Charter Justice in Canada (3rd ed.) at pages 456 to 458.
Inherent Jurisdiction to Control Proceedings
[38] Quite apart from any powers under the Charter, a superior court has inherent jurisdiction to control its own process: see R. v. Hajian reflex, (1995), 104 C.C.C. (3d) 562 (Que. Sup. Ct.). It was pointed out at page 573 of that decision that this is a very broad discretionary power, which may be invoked in a variety of circumstances and may be exercised in different ways. For example, in R. v. Brown, [1996] O.J. No. 5319 (Ont. Gen. Div.) it was stated that a court could invoke this power to remove counsel from the record, where it was necessary to ensure the appearance of fairness and integrity in the trial and to otherwise maintain the public trust or confidence in the administration of justice.
[39] As I stated earlier, I have found that because of the manner in which the 2002 assessment was approached by the Crown and carried out by Dr. Rootenberg, the neutral and independent character of that assessment, which took place only because it was ordered by a judge of this court, was compromised. The suggestion of abuse of a court Order cannot be lightly dismissed, even where the prosecution was not motivated by bad faith. After careful consideration of all of the circumstances, including the evidence and the submissions of counsel, and the role that fitness assessments and inquiries play in maintaining the dignity of the trial process, I have concluded that this is a case in which I should resort to my discretionary power in order to ensure the appearance of fairness and integrity of the proceedings and to otherwise maintain the public trust or confidence in the administration of justice.
[40] As an exercise of the court’s power to control its own process, I order that neither the content nor the results of the assessment conducted by Dr. Rootenberg in 2002 pursuant to the Order of MacDougall J. are to be presented in evidence to the jury that hears the fitness issue. I am prepared to order, if the Crown requests and subject to hearing from the defence, that a fresh assessment be carried out by a psychiatrist other than Dr. Rootenberg or Dr. Gojer. Such assessment will be limited to the issue of Mr. Morrissey’s fitness, and is not to include consideration of the other issues that were put to Dr. Rootenberg. A report is to be prepared and is to be addressed and submitted to me, along with copies for Crown and defence counsel. I will hear submissions from counsel about who should be appointed to conduct the assessment, what materials should go to the assessor, who will be responsible for communicating with him/her, how payment for the assessment is to be arranged, and any other matters that counsel wish to raise. It should be clear at all times that this is a fitness assessment, ordered by a judge of the court pursuant to Part XX.1 of the Criminal Code.
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Justice M. Fuerst
Released: October 10, 2002