Comments on: The only voice I hear is Tim’s

By: Renee

Renee — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:15:09 +0000

Li should be executed. Any person who is that defective should be. Any person who did what he did should be put to death. That’s my opinion.

By: keisha

keisha — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:44:10 +0000

I have read your article and I have to agree with you. I cannot feel sympathy for some f@#k that killed an innocent person like that, crazy or not. The fact that Li is schizophrenic does not mean that he should not be held responsible for Tim’s murder and pay for it. He f#$king killed that man, and he needs to pay. If they let that crazy dude out, he will just stop taking his meds and kill someone else, if not himself. That’s the problem: some people are so freaking scared to discriminate against someone, that they end treating Li like he ran a freaking traffic light or something. God help the human race.

By: Phyllis Deptuck

Phyllis Deptuck — Wed, 27 May 2009 20:07:18 +0000

It is time that Corrections Canada is updated as to the problems in our society. The rights of the individuals and safety of society is the last thing that they care about. Criminals have more rights than individuals. Stop pampering criminals.

By: Barb

Barb — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:16:11 +0000

Hi there, I just would like to offer my support. I watched with absolute
shock as the news reported that Mr Li will have no criminal record for his
crime.
I got in a really silly bar fight when I was 19 and was charged (I had not
ever been in trouble with the law before or after this incident!) and this
charge followed me on my record through professional job interviews for the
next 10 years, until I received a pardon 6 months ago. I had to explain
myself over and over in order to work with young people, the homeless and
the disabled.
I cannot believe that a crime like this would not even SHOW whatsoever on
his record! What if he was to be picked up 20 years from now, they would
run fingerprints and this would not even come up. A very good example of
this just happened in our very own community not long ago, a young woman
was murdered by a violent repeat offender who had been determined a RISK TO
SOCIETY when he was released… he never signed in, as he was supposed to,
and his whereabouts were unknown for over a year, until he showed up in our
city and befriended a woman here. Less than 24 hours later she was found by
her father and cousin, stabbed to death in her home. A slightly different
circumstance, but the same in the sense that if someone poses a risk to
society, they should be locked up with or without having actually committed
a crime. Why wait until someone has actually murdered someone to lock them
up… and even then, why use an illness as an excuse to have them deemed
not responsible??
I understand that the convicted and the mentally ill have rights, however,
I believe that OUR rights to live in a safe and peaceful society should
override. Neither Tim nor this young woman, had a chance to defend
themselves or even know the kind of danger that they were in. What about
their basic right to live? It’s just absurd to me. I try not to be paranoid
but with two small children to watch constantly, I am fearful about the
kinds of people that are walking our streets today that we would never even
know pose a threat.
I am just sick over this and wish you all the best. Keep fighting, for Tim
and for all the innocent victims of situations like this.
Sincerely, Jennifer

By: Phil Stark

Phil Stark — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:41:42 +0000

As you said on Alex Jones the other day if you steal a lipstick from Walmart making no attempt to “act guilty” in a fit of insanity there is no chance whatsoever you will not end up with a criminal record for Theft Under for the rest of your life!

Who the hell invented this “Not Criminally Responsible” nonsense?

Who is responsible? Some imaginary hell owning warlord in a palace on a cloud’s Lucifer-executive, for having whispered in some nuts ear?

What ever happened to the finding of “Criminal Insanity”?

Why on earth must victims have to re-live and maintain indefinite vigilancs lest some witch doctor decide that his Godly powers have ‘cured’ this monster and decides to test out his theories on society once again?

Do they eat with knives in this ‘hospital’?

Just how secure is this detention center for the criminally insane?

By: Birgit

Birgit — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:37:49 +0000

Sickening laws allow for sickening crimes to continue.
Maybe if people would hold the ‘law makers and experts’ accountable( monetary fines/jail) for the monsters THEY allow to roam and cause havoc.

Make them have a stake in what they blabber or when they pass laws to protect those who cause harm to innocents.

Everyone else is held accountable for their actions.

This is shameful how you treat the real victim Tim MacLean and his family.

RIP TIM

birgit

By: Mati Green

Mati Green — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:17:53 +0000

I heard this over the BBC this morning and then decided I would visit the website to get the full details. This is a very touchy story and takes me back to an almost similar incident that happened to my daughter on December 19th 2008. She was stabbed by an unidentified man when they were attending a summer bash. The case has to date not been settled because no suspect has been brought to book.

It breaks my heart even more to find that the charactaristics of the young boy just match those of my daughter; she was a sweet open, outgoing girl who was friends with the young and old alike. She died a terrible death, having been stabbed and bled to death, May her soul rest in peace.

As a mechanism of healing us and all her friends we have since started a Foundation in her nick name to help the youth and other disadvantaged groups of society. This we felt would heal us , knowing these are the kind of things she was doing,even though on a small scale with no specific gudelines set. I belief Tim’s family will also get some kind of healing. For us closure seems to a far from happening event since the culprit has not yet been caught as I sit here writing.

The most painful part of all this is that some people talk as if from space, and yes I think that could be it, because they do not feel the pain you are going through and worse as a mother you are even trying to figure what it is your child to deserve so much vengeance from another person , when you know them to be respectful and all the good characters I said before.

I wish Tim’s family in their efforts to attain change for the good of other members of society and hope they too and all of us in the same situation can pray for each other to be healed in our different countries.

Mati

By: Brenda Palmer

Brenda Palmer — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:29:03 +0000

I like always support Tim’s family and this law.
One point I find very interesting here and would also like to know is how someone who is deemed schizophrenic was allowed citizenship into this country, when my own husband, who had a criminal offence from the UK from when he was a teenage, was not allowed to be a permenant resident for over 7 years after his arrival into Canada? Very interesting….but aside from that still there are alot of things here that do not make sense and how we are all supposed to feel like Vince LI is the victim is beyond me. Another story I heard of out of the US last week was in regards to a man who has Autism, my youngest son is autistic, so not so much a mental illness but a neurological disorder, which I guess in essence can also be a mental illness depending on the severity. This man is severe, he killed his own mother,,,he is most likely going to jail. You know what, he most likely did not know that what he was doing is wrong, that is how his brain is programmed, but do you see him getting deemed NCR because he is autistic? No, and I agree with the decision. If this was my own son I would want him held responsible for what he has committed. Im not trying to take away from Tim here so please don’t think this, Im just making a point and I know we all agree, this is not right and its most infuriating and heartbreaking for his family that have to live thru his birthday, the christmas’s , the one year anniversary of all this horror. How the Canadian justice system finds this man NCR is beyond me and everyone in this country that has a heart and cares.
Carol DeDelley and the Maclean Family and the rest of us need to get this point across and we will, we speak loud enough someone has to listen and see the point of view we are making. This man needs to be held responsible, not given in 2 yrs time “Hey Mr Li, you’ve recovered you can now return to your normal life back in the community” And like I have said before, what happens when he hears voices next? Do we let him get away with it again? No. What Tim’s family are doing is so selfless and I admire them so much for how they handle themselves and what they are doing. Instead of sitting back and letting life go on, they are fighting and not taking no for an answer.
We need to support them in everything they do.

RIP Tim..
Brenda

By: Heather Sharpe

Heather Sharpe — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:33:34 +0000

Stigmitzation

I want to add a little on this subject. I have a career in Mental Health Services and Counselling that spans 29 years. I began when I was 18 and continue to this day. I am a tireless advocate of the mentally ill who are treated wrongly by society by being grouped into general categories such as “lazy,abusers of the employment and income assistance program, crazy. loose cannons etc” these are the terms that stigmitize those with mental health issues.

Where does the idea come from that people with mental halth conernsare all violent and dangerous?? From acts such as what Vincent Li committed. Not the person, but the act.

Also the whole issue in question is not whether one with a mental health concern is being treated in an unfair biased way here, the issue is that what he did was WRONG!He murdered and then ate parts of someone’s son. That is what is wrong. To those who stand pointing the finger at the DeDelley’s and McLeans for ridiculous claims about their veiws of mental illness walk a second
in their shoes and imagine it was your child.
I think your views would chance.
Finially Carol deserves the respect to be addressed by her given name Carol DeDelley.
I have nothing at all against Nadine and Tim Mclean. Please show Carol that respect.
Thank You
XX

By: Heather Sharpe

Heather Sharpe — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:18:51 +0000

To add to Carol’s comment, I fully agree it was decided well in advance and when I gave an interview the day the verdict was released in Brandon, that was part of my interview was ommitted from what was aired. I also brought up how Mr. Li left a facility on his own and was not followed up and asked WHY?? That was ommitted as well as other gaps in the mental health system such as the fact that people can refuse to take their medications under the Mental Health Act,and refuse to stay in hospitals unless they are involuntarily admitted. An involuntary admission I believe is for 72 hours and unless a person is deemed a danger to themself or others they can not be held. The terrible tragedy here is that Mr. Li was a danger and it manifested itself too late. Perhaps if mental health had follwed him up this would not have happened. Why are they not accountable for this? It too has been brushed aside.
I want to get this off my chest too.
How dare anyone in the Mental Health field accuse the DeDelley and McLean Families of stigmitizing the mentally ill. The act Mr. Li committed did that. The covering up of information the public should have known from Day one did that. And for Carol and her children and the McLean families to find out those horrifying details in a court room did that.
And also………..where was Tim’s Voice during that three day trial and why was Carol not allowed to address the court. She had to release her victim impact statemet to the media. That was shameful.
Why on earth has Mr. Li become a victim here?
What about Tim McLean? Has it been decided that will be brushed aside until June 1st 2009 when Mr. Li stands before a review board?
And finially, it bothers me too that Carol is referred to as Mrs. McLean. Not because I have anything against the McLean side of the family at all. She is Carol DeDelley. It adds further insult that she is not even respected enough to be addressed by her given name.